Rick,
IN Great Brittian there is a proposal that all flying machines, within BCD airspace must have a transponder.
The proposal is hotly contested for several reasons including there are no transponders that can be carried on things like hanggliders and run off a 9 volt battery.
you are correct in the following:
"I thou ght you had been complaining lately that you couldn't get Sport Pilot training because the airplanes won't carry you and an instructor without being over gross weight. So I thought that you didn't have a license"
My best chance of making sport pilot is to find an instructor that will train in my trike (which does not have dual controls), as I would like more/refresher training on all the PTS maneuvers.
Then find an instructor that will give the flight portion of the test in my trike.
I have spoken with several CFIs, such as Paul Hamilton at Carson City NV about taking the test.
Universally, so far, they have all required performing the test in a dual control trike, preferably their own trike (as if they do not trust me to fly my trike safely), even with the recommendation of another CFI indicating that I do know what I'm doing in a trike and have been trained on all the requirements.
I have gotten some dual time in my trike with Samantha Moore; That got interrupted when a head gasket on my trike engine blew.
As it is, I have 20+hrs of dual training in a trike with 3 different instructors. Landing in their trike(s) is always a problem because of landing on the front wheel, unless landing with a significant amount of power applied.
I have 30-40 front wheel landings. They are super scarry. It is only with the greatest of care that none of those landings have balled up a trike. Even so, some have swerved us right off the runway, but no tip overs.
That makes soft field, short field, dead stick, cross wind landings all items that I had to learn on my own.
Fortunately, several bits of surgery on my own trike made a trike that lands correctly with me in the front seat.
If it weren't for the posted front seat weight limits, I think most trikes could accommodate me with nothing more than a shorter front strut. Though many trikes are very limited in the front seat area, making it a real squeeze for me to get into/sit in/get out of.
R. Williams
P.S.
I guess a person could say I am one of the 'just fly' crowd.
R.W.
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From: "Rick Pitcher" <lightflyer@adelphia.net>
To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:16:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Transponders in NORDO aircraft
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> I dunno Richard, I think they could easily require tansponders on all airplanes if they feel that we aren't taking the initiative on our own to fly safely.
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> Thanks for the background experience, I thought you had been complaining lately that you couldn't get Sport Pilot training because the airplanes won't carry you and an instructor without being over gross weight. So I thought that you didn't have a license, hadn't flown in congested airspace, and were maybe giving opinions on a subject you weren't familiar with.
> There's a whole lot of these posers on the internet who think that just because they post messages on a hundred aviation websites that they are "involved in aviation". Glad to hear you ain't one :)
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> Rick
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Williams
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Transponders in NORDO aircraft
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> Rick,
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> I used to fly Cessna 182s, boring, noisy, expensive.
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> Then moved on to hanggliding, from 1978 until 2002 when some jerk in a SUV ran over me as I rode a (motorized) skateboard on the sidewalk in Chandler AZ, nearly eliminating my ability to walk and completely eliminating my ability to run.
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> From 1999 to present I fly trikes, originally part 103 (fat, with training exemption) now a grandfathered E-LSA (naturally N numbered and airworthied.) Also obtained the 16 hr repairman/inspectio n certificate for my trike. I also have the sport pilot class BCD endorsement.
> Along the way, I have taken ground school a few times, once at Fletcher airpark in Turlock CA, once at Eagle Creek airport near Indianapolis Indiana, once using the King School CDs, and once with CFI Samantha Moore in Carson City NV. (BTW: Samanth Moore gave the best ground school)
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> Only the Cessna, had a transponder. though I am looking for an inexpensive transponder+blind encoder to install in my trike.
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> BTW:
> my trike is an APEX Cross-6, NorthWing Mustang II 19 m wing, with the Verner 133MK engine
> When the engine is running right, I get about 60 hours a year.
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> I have been in and out of a number of class D airports in the Cessna.
> WIth the trike, I have to swing way wide on any north bound trips to miss the 30 mile ring around SeaTac and the class D around the Olympia airport south of Seattle, WA due to no transponder.
> (a phone call will usually get permission to traverse the class D airspace, but I usually just plan a bit of a dog leg in the flight rather than mess with the phone call.
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> I fully understand what Jim was trying to say. However, the actual post read to me as saying that he expects to see transponders required on all flying machines because of some incidents with part 103 flying machines.
> There are plenty of near miss incidents with GA aircraft, even those that do have transponders.
> Therefore, It can be expected that the FnAA will NOT mandate transponders on ALL flying machines, irregardless of Jim's fears; otherwise, it would already be in the FARs due to the long history of near-misses that have occurred in the past with GA aircraft.
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> R. Williams
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Rick Pitcher" <lightflyer@adelphia.net>
> To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:28:26 -0700
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Transponders in NORDO aircraft
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> > Richard, I think you mis-read Jim's message.
> > He is saying that we need to pay attention to the rules and stay out of airspace that we don't belong in. If we don't, then we WILL all be forced to install transponders so others can avoid bumping into us in the air (NOT a good thing)
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> > BTW, I'm curious... what do you fly, or what DID you fly before?
> > Do you have any flight experience?
> > Did you ever get into the kind of busy airspace that this incident occured in, or just spekulatin'?
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> > thanks,
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard Williams
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Transponders in NORDO aircraft
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> > Jim B,
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> > (that has a familiar ring Jim B)
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> > Jim, your being a bit unreasonable.
> > The GA world has been flying without transponders in airplanes that are heavier, fly faster and carry more persons for decades.
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> > No rules have been propagated forcing all >254 pound flying things to have a transponder.
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> > (well, there is the proposed silliness in GB where even hanggliders have to have a transponder; but that is not the U.S.)
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> > R. Williams
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> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: "Jim Bair" <JimBair@SportAviationUnlimited. com>
> > To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:58:19 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Transponders in NORDO aircraft
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> > > The triker's version:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/Sport_ Aircraft/ files/Near% 20miss_Trike% 20pilot.pdfThe A320 pilot's version:http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Sport_ Aircraft/ files/Near% 20miss_First% 20Officer% 20Airbus% 20320.pdfEvery UL and Light Sport Pilot in the country should read those two versionsof the same event and note the tone of the two different write ups. Thetrikers don't specify as to whether they were at 3500' MSL or AGL. (Istrongly suspect AGL. The A320 writeup is pretty specific.) Guys, this isserious stuff. I see on the lists all the time people trying to figure outways to lawyer themselves around "unreasonable" rules and requirements thatwe would rather not have. It's crap like this t! hat got ULs banned in somecounties from landing at public airports at all. If we don't want ever moreonerous rules placed upon us, we have to impress upon our peers that thiscrap needs to stop. People need to know how to read a sectional and read abook and figure out how to share our airspace correctly or we will findourselves saddled with even more rules and requirements. How would anyonelike the rule to come down that everything that flies that weighs more than254# has to have a transponder? I wouldn't. Well guess what.... it's stufflike this that leads to that.Jim
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