Tuesday, August 23, 2011

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Lower cost S-LSA airplanes

Thanks for the article, very helpful.

Helen, since your operation has used different manufactures of aircraft, which are holding up better to the training environment?

Are there any manufacturers of S-LSA that are starting to earn a reputation for building airplanes that are good for trainers? and are providing good support to the owners/operations?

While doing research I am using $6,000 a year for insurance in all my cost calculations. Hopefully that is realistic. I am only in the beginning stages of research right now. If I continue to move forward I will definitely get actual quotes.

All insights and experiences into the topic of LSA training operations is very much appreciated.

Thank you,
Sean

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> More than that. You can get some quotes from Denise:
>
> Denise Porter
> Aviation West Insurance Brokers, LLC
> P.O. Box 1509
> Vista, CA 92085-1509
> T. (760) 727-7444
> F. (760) 727-7555
>
> Be prepared for sticker shock (especially if you plan to let people solo
> it) but remember while the fatality rat for SLSAs is the same, the
> accident rate for SLSA is twice as high as for GA planes. Beleive it or
> not though, that's not your biggest deciding factor when hundting for a
> plane though. I actually co-wrote an article for Mentor about how to buy
> a flight school LSA. I've dropped it on my web site to take a look at:
>
> http://www.helenshangar.com/articles/woods-lsa.pdf
>
> Helen
>
> On 8/22/2011 11:35 PM, Lyle Cox wrote:
> >
> >
> > From past experience, you need to settle on something that will rent
> > very steadily. You'll pay out the nose for insurance for a rental
> > Light Sport. I had a 152 in a flight school and with ony $28,000 hull
> > value, it was still $4000 per year to insure it. Takes a lot of hours
> > to pay just the fixed costs. It can be done and I hope to not
> > discourage you, but if you settle on an airplane because of price, it
> > might not be what your potential market wants to rent. For example,
> > the 152 was renting quite regularly....but still only about 25 hours
> > per month. The replacement...didn't have the curb appeal and almost
> > immediately my rental hours plunged to 10. My break even at the time
> > was 20 hours, so that didn't last long.
> >
> > I would expect, and Helen can chime in, that the insurance will be
> > more likely to be around $5 or $6K per year. Don't be afraid to price
> > the airplane where you need to be to make some money, but then be
> > ready for the lurkers here to pounce on you for gouging the sport
> > pilot...lol. The sport aircraft around here rent for over $100 per
> > hour and they seem to fly a fair amount.
> >
> > *From:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *a
> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:29 PM
> > *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Lower cost S-LSA airplanes
> >
> > Research is being done with the thought of instruct/rent.
> >
> > Looking at lower cost new vs used S-LSA that originally cost 100k+ new.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>, "fishmaster232"
> > <fishmaster232@> wrote:
> > >
> > > CGS Hawk, Quicksilver, M-Squared
> > >
> > > all in the 30's I believe
> > >
> > > Are you going to instruct or rent it ?
> > >
> > > Rod
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>, "a" <ajoys27@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was looking at the AeroTrek and was wondering, do you know of
> > any other lower cost S-LSA airplanes?
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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