I am sorry, I was not clear, I meant that any pilot should learn the way ATC talks so they can understand when they are flying, sometimes the message is short.
From: "LacyTG@aol.com" <LacyTG@aol.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
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To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Rod Machado's new Sport Pilot book i...
Again Jim, let me say this.............. I am talking about postings. Writings that someone writes for others to read and to understand. What ever the subject, there is a right way and a wrong way to put it down. As you wrote in this posting ATC (Air Traffic Control) spells out what you intend to talk about in your posting. So in all your following text, when you use the acronym ATC, the reader is aware of your meaning. That's how it is done in Government work but not here. All the writers, in this group do use the acronym without defining it, and lets the reader draw their own conclusion. That in my opinion is wrong.......... As I said, it is putting a gap between yourself and someone with lesser knowledge. And In one of the answers it was stated that you wanted to separate yourselves from mortal man............ wow, what a statement to say. I am using the posts I read here to take to local fly-ins and see what those pilots think about this attitude. I am sure they will not agree with anything here........... and they are also life long pilots........... same family. But, we'll see, and if I am wrong, I'll apologize at that time. So I wish to thank you and everyone for all for your inputs.......
Lacy
In a message dated 8/10/2011 10:52:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jimbair@live.com writes:
I think we are on two separate subjects. I got the impression that the reader was a new pilot who didn't want people throwing out terms like CG but wanted the writer to instead write Center of Gravity just in case there was a new person lurking who doesn't know what CG is.Proper radio terminology is a different topic. Acronyms are not typically used in radio transmissions with ATC (Air Traffic Control). The wording used may seem a bot foreign to a new person, but usually entire words are used, they aren't shortened. The brevity comes from using them in a concise manner that both the controller and the pilot expects to hear and reduces radio clutter.JimFrom: James FerrisSent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:41 AMSubject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Rod Machado's new Sport Pilot book i...Learn the ACRONYMS, you need them when you spesk on the radio to the tower and aircraft control on IFR flights.From: "LacyTG@aol.com" <LacyTG@aol.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Rod Machado's new Sport Pilot book i...
I guess, I want to maybe say thing that is going to make some people very mad at me, but I just have to say it none the less.It is my opinion that people in all of these groups use acronyms as if every one understand their terms. I worked for the government all of my life, who is known for this type of BS, however, when they use it in any types of writings they spell it out in all of their published works at least once. That is so anyone who reads it knows how it is used. In these types of groups, you ignore the lai person, as if your way above the common people. What in the world is wrong with open discussion and letting everyone "understand" your full meaning? I am new to the LSA organization, and wish to learn more. But am hampered by this type of conversation where I am slowed down by trying to figure out the words. Come on people, you can do better than that.You know we get upset at people who text on their phones all day long. The do not know how to write a word in English............ are you heading down that road leading the next generation?Just my person thought, take it or leave it, but I know there is others out there who feel the same way...........Lacy KayeOwner: Challenger II in Spring Hill Florida........In a message dated 8/9/2011 9:18:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drice003@woh.rr.com writes:I did rod's book ,while it is thick and it is massive ,there is nothing in there that is not worth knowing. I got a 96 on sp test and would not have done it with out the book
and mine is now for sale with free notes in the margin
d:
Having to plow through 582 pages just to get a Sport Pilot license is way too much. I thought the appeal of getting a SP license was the training was much less than a PP. I read his equally massive Private Pilot Handbook and thought no wonder the drop out rate for PPs is nearly 70 % ( per AOPA ). While I like Rods writing style his books are a perfect example of less is ALOT more. The video courses I've seen from King are IMO a much easier and efficient way of learning than reading a bloated textbook.
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