It is well known that the FAA data bases are poor and full of errors. E.g. 3 passenger J-3s for example.
It really hasn’t been a problem until they start using it to filter stolen planes. This was never the intended use for the data base. Even this use was not a problem until 9-11 and the Patriot Act.
From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jimmyg51147
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:05 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Video: FAA resolves Kings issue - AOPA
1) Me think thou dost protest too much. What a little too close to home?
2) You got a list of all the out of date databases handy?
3) Answered well by another poster
4)Oh! for crying out loud! 98% of people aren't pulling pilots and their wives out of aircraft with guns drawn.
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, medicbill@... wrote:
>
> I. Your doughnut comment just shows your continuing ignorance.
> 2, Expect them to do their damn jobs so it does not happen.
> 3, Not rocket science.
> 4. I would bet that 98% of people think that airplanes have VIN numbers
> just like cars.
>
>
> In a message dated 9/2/2010 3:33:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> james-galvin@... writes:
>
>
> Your logic is flawed in so many ways that I don't have time to detail all
> of them. Here are some:
> 1) "It is not their job to verify information given to them from a federal
> agency." It IS their job. And sooner or later it has to be done. Here they
> chose to verify it after committing all the resources detailed in the
> report and detaining the Kings. Had they done the verification prior to
> starting out the police could have spent the time eating their favorite doughnuts.
>
> 2)"The fault lies with the FAA and other agencies and possibly Cessna who
> knew this N number had a problem and should have made sure it had been
> changed." You expect Cessna or for that matter you or I to check EVERY data
> base (past, present, and particularly the obsolete ones) to make sure the
> N-number we are using is free and clear in each database. Please explain how we
> are to accomplish is task and rectify any discrepancies.
> 3) "I think that the FAA also should not reissue numbers from a stolen
> aircraft in such a short period of time or maybe never reissue them so
> something like this could not happen again." I don't even know where to start with
> this one!
> 4) "They acted they way they have been trained and the department policy."
> And you thought this was appropriate. This was hilarious. KEYSTONE COPS
> comes to mind. I got a kick out of them asking John King where the VIN number
> was located on the plane.
>
>
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, medicbill@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > I believe the police acted appropriately based upon the information they
> recieved. It is not their job to verify information given to them from a
> federal agency. The fault lies with the FAA and other agencies and possibly
> Cessna who knew this N number had a problem and should have made sure it
> had been changed. Especially since it had happened before. Has this plane
> flown since the last time it I think that the FAA also should not reissue
> numbers from a stolen aircraft in such a short period of time or maybe never
> reissue them so something like this could not happen again.
> >
> > If it had not involved a high profile couple it would not even been
> found on the back page of the arts section. The police were given a report of a
> stolen aircraft from a government agency. The police have to depend on the
> reliability of that report and act upon it appropriately. Which is exactly
> what they did. In todays world after 911 how can they act any other way.
> >
> > As far as how they handled the situation after the Kings landing to the
> police they were conducting a felony stop. No different then they would if
> it was a stolen vehicle. They had no idea who was in that plane. They
> acted they way they have been trained and the department policy. To do it any
> other way is how police officers end up dead.
> >
> > The fault lays with the FAA and the government agencies who handle the
> registrations and the databases that the information comes from not the
> police who are doing their jobs. The Kings were only detained and not arrested.
> Once the info was cleared up they were released. Can it be stressful? Yes.
> I met the Kings at Oshkosh and even though they may be getting up in years
> they both appeared to me to be tough people and I am sure they handled it
> very well. Obviously they figured out a training angle from the situation
> just like you would expect they would.
>
>
>
>
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