Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: NAFI poll

Right Lyle.
I have not seen a 150 hour WSC part k CFI yet.
Abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> Which is why I said it was "possible"...not very probable, but possible.
>
> Lyle Cox
>
> Fun Aero Sports Logo
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> Fun Aero Sports, LLC
> 3344 Long Creek Drive
> Fort Collins, CO 80528
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> 970-631-3983
> www.funaerosports.com
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of apollonorthamerica
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:44 PM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: NAFI poll
>
>
> I disagree. Minimum requirements are minimum requirements. They are not
> saying that anyone -has to- get the instructor rating in 150 hours and 200
> hours. They are saying you cannot even think about getting those rating if
> you don't have -at least- that much time.
> Abid
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> , Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@>
> wrote:
> >
> > They both need to be changed.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> > Lyle Cox wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmmm..well.it is possible for a "real CFI" to be teaching in as
> > > little as 200 hours. The sport CFI, can do it in 150. The "real CFI"
> > > had to spend 40 hours in training for IFR, which takes them down to
> > > 160 hours..then another 10 in complex airplanes, which brings them
> > > down to 150 hours. That's not much difference, is it?
> > >
> > > Lyle Cox
> > >
> > > Fun Aero Sports Logo
> > >
> > > Fun Aero Sports, LLC
> > >
> > > 3344 Long Creek Drive
> > >
> > > Fort Collins, CO 80528
> > >
> > > 970-631-3983
> > >
> > > www.funaerosports.com
> > >
> > > *From:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> ] *On Behalf Of *Abid Farooqui
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:15 PM
> > > *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > *Subject:* Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: NAFI poll
> > >
> > > LOL.
> > > The argument to vote "No" that people are using is simple Helen.
> > > Sub-part H instructors of airplane category are simply angry if its
> > > done the other way. They feel they are being victimized of sub-part k
> > > airplane instructors are given the capability to train easily to 15
> > > hours and that 15 hours counts. That's time away from their income.
> > > Sorry to be very blunt here.
> > > In the end it will only hurt the number of pilots produced. Sometimes
> > > you have to look at the big picture and on balance what's good for the
> > > whole industry.
> > > The fact of the matter Helen is that yes subpart H CFI's have low time
> > > requirements according to many and subpart k CFI's also have even
> > > lower time requirements and private pilot time requirements are really
> > > not enough and sport pilot time requirements are not enough either.
> > > BUT these are ALL MINIMUM time requirements. The average for even a
> > > private pilot is about 60+ hours of training not 40. Average for a SP
> > > is 33 not 20 hours.
> > > It depends on when the instructor giving the endorsement feel that
> > > they are ready. There is no hidden agenda here. These are MINIMUM
> > > requirements. No one has to give their endorsement that this guy is
> > > ready to become an instructor in 100 hours. They can wait till 200
> > > hours or whatever it takes. No need to increase minimums by
> > > regulation. We expect examiners and instructors certificated by the
> > > FAA to give out endorsements and licenses to be adults here.
> > >
> > > Last time I checked we were -not- in Europe.
> > > Abid
> > >
> > > Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: NAFI poll
> > >
> > > As you know, I've been working the phone on this issue since OSH. The
> > > number one thing that I hear over and over again that I fully agree
> > > with is that the flight time requirements for a subpart K instructor
> > > are ridiculously low. I had almost that amount of total time when I
> > > finished my PPL and I know I didn't know squat at that point. I think
> > > most in the subpart H comunity believe that the flight time
> > > requirements even for a subpart H instructor are way too low and to
> > > cut them further for a subpart K instructor has us shaking our heads
> > > in disbelief. I suspect that if the flight time requirements were
> > > raised for subpart K to something more reasonable, you'd see a lot of
> > > people changing their minds on this issue of credit given.
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > > Aug 19, 2009 09:45:26 AM, Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just voted in the pole, which asked the question, "Should training
> > > received from a sport-pilot instructor be applicable to other ratings
> > > and or certificates?" I have to say... I'm absolutely shocked by the
> > > number of "No" votes. I figured there'd be a couple, but the score was
> > > 71 - Yes to 50 - No.
> > >
> > > I'm curious... What is the argument people are using to say the
> > > training provided by a sport pilot instructor should not count toward
> > > a PPL or beyond? Regardless of whether a Sport Pilot got his training
> > > from a CFI or a SPI... that Sport Pilot still had to fly to the exact
> > > same Practical Test Standards. Any comments?
> > >
> > > - Chris
> > >
> > > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>, Helen Woods wrote:
> > > >
> > > > NAFI members, please be sure to cast your vote!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.nafinet.org/poll/
> > > >
> > > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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