RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Light Sport Training Not Counting

None of this I mean personally, just generally speaking.

 

I guess the question is are the spCFI's  trained enough to do this for private and up? Instructors of course is what I mean. I think the FAA thinks not.

 

Even the recreational ticket I have is good for Private. If I had been trained by a sport CFI it would not. It was a definite hassle to do mine that way but apparently worth the 60+

hours it took to do it. I sure didn't think so at the time. :-)

 

A step further is to not waste time with SPCFI's and go direct to private CFI's (sub H). Seems King schools and Cessna and the pilot center's are gearing up to teach sport pilot. I would assume at that point, the true SPCFI's would be in low demand and ample supply. IMHO of course. There is a thousand of those Skyscrapers going to schools as it stands now, from what I have heard.

 

So while all this is going on it would seem proper to ask those on here that are SPCFI trained how many have any instrument time as privates? To jump up and down on IFR and night flight for sport is a sure fire way to shoot yourself in the foot, seems to me. The reason given for the spCFI was to null and void the BFI's from any more training, and it worked. Even dumped the two place UL, fat or otherwise.

 

An example of a instructor that would not be harmed by this would be, Jon Thornburgh in Torrance, California. I'm sure there are others out there as well.

 

Now just speaking to the fixed wing crowds only, as the others are specialized enough to have there own instructors, perhaps, just for the transition time. Seems most things Cessna has done points in that direction like a straight arrow on target. The big uns will definitely point the way, given the standards they work with. It can all be done simply with supply side and the operating limitations seems to me.

 

 Gary O.
 N181RL
 661 746-4780

-----Original Message-----
From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Woods
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 5:52 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Light Sport Training Not Counting

 

I just got back from OSH, and from the look of my inbox, 101 e-mails
only debating IFR LSA aircraft, I'm guessing that the big news that
REALLY affects us as a community got burred last week with all the media
focusing on OSH. Last week FAA legal officially declared that dual
instruction given by a subpart K instructor (aka sport pilot instructor)
does NOT count towards additional ratings. This means that if two
students take identical training at the same school, using the same
planes, examined by the same DPE, to the same sport pilot standards, but
one learns from a "sport pilot instructor" (subpart K) and the other
learns from a "traditional instructor" (subpart H) and both wish later
to become private pilots, the former will have to repeat her training
while the latter will not. This codifies the previous opinion of AFS 610.

I and several others including the alphabets pleaded in our response to
the previous NPRM to have the wording of the sport CFI rules changed to
correct this unfair situation. Unfortunately, when I spoke with the rep
from FAA Legal at OSH he said there currently is no movement afoot
amongst those working on the final rule to change this situation.

We need to fight this ruling. I'm open to ideas. I currently think our
best bet is to try and get the alphabets to lobby the FAA to make sure
this gets changed when the final change to the sport pilot rules is
released in December, but we have a very limited window in which to do
so. If you are as upset about this situation as I, please join me this
week in calling the following groups and asking for their help:

AOPA 1-800-872-2672
EAA 1-888-322-4636
NAFI (National Association of Flight Instructors) 920-426-6801

Thank you.
Helen

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