No FAA does not think "not". They think "yes". This is their lawyers who missed complete analysis at the start ... an unintended thing. I believe they are already working on correcting it.
Abid
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Orpe" <garyo@...> wrote:
>
> None of this I mean personally, just generally speaking.
>
> I guess the question is are the spCFI's trained enough to do this for
> private and up? Instructors of course is what I mean. I think the FAA
> thinks not.
>
> Even the recreational ticket I have is good for Private. If I had been
> trained by a sport CFI it would not. It was a definite hassle to do mine
> that way but apparently worth the 60+
> hours it took to do it. I sure didn't think so at the time. :-)
>
> A step further is to not waste time with SPCFI's and go direct to private
> CFI's (sub H). Seems King schools and Cessna and the pilot center's are
> gearing up to teach sport pilot. I would assume at that point, the true
> SPCFI's would be in low demand and ample supply. IMHO of course. There is
> a thousand of those Skyscrapers going to schools as it stands now, from
> what I have heard.
>
> So while all this is going on it would seem proper to ask those on here
> that are SPCFI trained how many have any instrument time as privates? To
> jump up and down on IFR and night flight for sport is a sure fire way to
> shoot yourself in the foot, seems to me. The reason given for the spCFI
> was to null and void the BFI's from any more training, and it worked. Even
> dumped the two place UL, fat or otherwise.
>
> An example of a instructor that would not be harmed by this would be, Jon
> Thornburgh in Torrance, California. I'm sure there are others out there as
> well.
>
> Now just speaking to the fixed wing crowds only, as the others are
> specialized enough to have there own instructors, perhaps, just for the
> transition time. Seems most things Cessna has done points in that
> direction like a straight arrow on target. The big uns will definitely
> point the way, given the standards they work with. It can all be done
> simply with supply side and the operating limitations seems to me.
>
>
> Gary O.
> N181RL
> 661 746-4780
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 5:52 PM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Light Sport Training Not
> Counting
>
>
>
>
> I just got back from OSH, and from the look of my inbox, 101 e-mails
> only debating IFR LSA aircraft, I'm guessing that the big news that
> REALLY affects us as a community got burred last week with all the media
> focusing on OSH. Last week FAA legal officially declared that dual
> instruction given by a subpart K instructor (aka sport pilot instructor)
> does NOT count towards additional ratings. This means that if two
> students take identical training at the same school, using the same
> planes, examined by the same DPE, to the same sport pilot standards, but
> one learns from a "sport pilot instructor" (subpart K) and the other
> learns from a "traditional instructor" (subpart H) and both wish later
> to become private pilots, the former will have to repeat her training
> while the latter will not. This codifies the previous opinion of AFS 610.
>
> I and several others including the alphabets pleaded in our response to
> the previous NPRM to have the wording of the sport CFI rules changed to
> correct this unfair situation. Unfortunately, when I spoke with the rep
> from FAA Legal at OSH he said there currently is no movement afoot
> amongst those working on the final rule to change this situation.
>
> We need to fight this ruling. I'm open to ideas. I currently think our
> best bet is to try and get the alphabets to lobby the FAA to make sure
> this gets changed when the final change to the sport pilot rules is
> released in December, but we have a very limited window in which to do
> so. If you are as upset about this situation as I, please join me this
> week in calling the following groups and asking for their help:
>
> AOPA 1-800-872-2672
> EAA 1-888-322-4636
> NAFI (National Association of Flight Instructors) 920-426-6801
>
> Thank you.
> Helen
>
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