Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Oldtimer Ul's

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Roger Poyner <rogpoyn@...> wrote:
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> It wasn't just the Chotia powered weedhoppers.  They could still be legal with the 447.  Several legal planes come to my mind.  The Kasperwing, Eagle, Dacs and Easy Risers just for a start.  Roger

And there are plenty others that could still be built and flown. Those mentioned already have been superseded by more superior 103 designs. Folks don't build them much anymore. If you want a 103 ultralight now build a legal CGS Hawk, Kolb Firefly, or Legal Eagle etc, and get a far superior machine that will be more usable.

John said the old designs are still cost effective, but just barely. It's hard to build anything under 10K these days. A few still scratch build the 2-axis Sky Pup (like mine) but it will cost $6-8K. None were ever overweight. Take your $3995 Quicksilver E model of 1982 and figure in the inflation rate. See what it would cost today.

I think it's cool if someone wants to preserve the old birds but nowadays, 25 years later, times have changed. You have many more options. Back when there was no such thing as a Hawk, Kolb, or Challenger etc. those old weight shift 2-axis birds were the hot thing. We always want to go back to the old days, but you can never really go back.

--Dan Grunloh


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> From: "palmettoe@..." <palmettoe@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:02:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Oldtimer Ul's
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> Hey John, Exactly which ones other than Chotia powered Weedhoppers and weightshift Quicks with a 15 hp Yamaha would you be referring to ?                                                               John M.
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> In a message dated 8/12/2009 3:12:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john.dittmer@ yahoo.com writes:
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> >Just because time goes by and techniques and materials change doesn't mean the original old timer ultralights have to fade out. Especially when it comes to part 103. Most of these aircraft were proven during there time and are still worthy of recognition today. And might I add, cost effective. What ever happened to back to basics? An I don't mean back in 1903.
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