Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Avionics Equipment

My experience operating inside controled airspace has been that a phone call before entering their airspace is woth a lot.  I have been cleared to fly within 20 miles of DFW in a 180 Cessna without an radio much less a transponder.  As long as they know you are out there and fly at the altitude they prescribe it works.  At least it has for me.  The same has worked at Kansas City.

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From: gmichaelhuffman <sportaviation@gmail.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:31:13 AM
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Avionics Equipment

 

Ah, yes, the debate starts once more. There was a long-running Internet debate over these questions about four years ago when the light-sport program began and now the points being brought up here are the same as then. I hesitated to even bring up the subject for that reason.

No matter what one's personal definition of an "engine-driven electrical system" might be, the FAA Light-Sport office says the exemption does not apply to any engine that has the capability of supplying electrical power, whether or not it is hooked up.

One more thing: someone asked about transponders in ultralights. The answer is that FAR 91.215(b) applies to "aircraft" (by the official FAA definition). An unlicensed ultralight under FAR 103 is not an aircraft; it is an "ultralight vehicle" (by the official FAA definition). Therefore, 91.215(b) does not apply to ultralights. FAR 103 prohibits operation of an ultralight within Class B airspace, but not merely inside the Mode C ring. Thus, an ultralight with an engine-driven electrical system would seem to be legal operating without a transponder/ encoder under the floor of the Class B inside the Mode C ring.

Of course, as I said, all this is tempered by the real-world facts that Approach Control often does not want to know about low-and-slow aircraft out near the edges of the Mode C ring.

Hope this helps!

Mike

G. Michael Huffman
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--- In Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com, "r" <lightflyer@ ...> wrote:
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> --- In Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com, "apollonorthamerica " <apollonorthamerica @> wrote:
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> > Rotax 447 has an engine driven electrical system. Its has a lighting coil comes with the engine and can be hooked up using a rectifier.
> > Abid
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> Yes, you're right.
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> On the Rotax 582 I had a regulator, battery, electric start, radio, strobes, nav lights and GPS all powered by the lighting coils.
> That airplane had an engine driven electrical system.
>
> On my 377, the lighting coils were there but the leads remained capped and stowed.
> That airplane didn't have an electrical system.
>

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