Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Time Building for Private in a LSA

OK, I'm still confused.  Based on what you have posted here, why is it limited to category and class?  I see nothing that says, "LSA time can be counted as long as it's in the same cat/class".  I spent part of the day reading over that very subpart and called FSDO as well.  They are also researching it.  No one there knew the answer.  My real question is whether trike and powered parachute time count.  As the reg is written, it only specifies 100 hours in powered aircraft, 50 of which must be in airplanes.  That means 150 could be in gliders, or balloons, or 200 could be in trikes, etc.  Make up your own mix.  However, the 8710-1 has no area to put WSC or PP time.  Is this a failure to revise the 8710-1 or does it mean they can't be counted?  That's my question and precisely the reason I questioned you as to your source.  If it has been decided, I would like to know.  At some point, this will affect someone.  My oldest son is ready for his Comm Helo checkride.  He has enough time without the WSC time, but what if he didn't?  Would it count?  I would like to see the 8710-1 changed to reflect the new cat/classes.

 

Jim

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Helen Woods

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:16 PM

Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Time Building for Private in a LSA

 

Title 14: Aeronautics and Space
PART 61—CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND GROUND INSTRUCTORS
Subpart F—Commercial Pilots

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§ 61.129 Aeronautical experience.

Link to an amendment published at 74 FR 42558, Aug. 21, 2009.

(a) For an airplane single-engine rating. Except as provided in
paragraph (i) of this section, a person who applies for a commercial
pilot certificate with an airplane category and single-engine class
rating must log at least 250 hours of flight time as a pilot that
consists of at least:

(1) 100 hours in powered aircraft, of which 50 hours must be in airplanes.

(2) 100 hours of pilot-in-command flight time, which includes at least—

(i) 50 hours in airplanes; and

(ii) 50 hours in cross-country flight of which at least 10 hours must be
in airplanes.

(3) 20 hours of training on the areas of operation listed in
§61.127(b)(1) of this part that includes at least—

(i) 10 hours of instrument training of which at least 5 hours must be in
a single-engine airplane;

(ii) 10 hours of training in an airplane that has a retractable landing
gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, or is turbine-powered,
or for an applicant seeking a single-engine seaplane rating, 10 hours of
training in a seaplane that has flaps and a controllable pitch propeller;

(iii) One cross-country flight of at least 2 hours in a single-engine
airplane in day VFR conditions, consisting of a total straight-line
distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of
departure;

(iv) One cross-country flight of at least 2 hours in a single-engine
airplane in night VFR conditions, consisting of a total straight-line
distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of
departure; and

(v) 3 hours in a single-engine airplane in preparation for the practical
test within the 60-day period preceding the date of the test.

(4) 10 hours of solo flight in a single-engine airplane on the areas of
operation listed in §61.127(b)(1) of this part, which includes at least—

(i) One cross-country flight of not less than 300 nautical miles total
distance, with landings at a minimum of three points, one of which is a
straight-line distance of at least 250 nautical miles from the original
departure point. However, if this requirement is being met in Hawaii,
the longest segment need only have a straight-line distance of at least
150 nautical miles; and

(ii) 5 hours in night VFR conditions with 10 takeoffs and 10 landings
(with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an
airport with an operating control tower.

Jim Bair wrote:
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> I think you mean Part 61, and then can you be more specific as to what
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> Helen,
> I've been looking for that info. Where did you find it?
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> Thanks,
> Jim
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Helen Woods <mailto:Helen_Woods@verizon.net>
> *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Time
> Building for Private in a LSA
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> As long as it's in the same category and class for which
> you are seeking
> the certificate.
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> Helen
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> bigoldkahuna2000 wrote:
> > Can nn LSA be used to build time for private pilots
> working on their commercial license?
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> > Thanks
> > Patrick Mc
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