Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Avionics Equipment

Add to this that a Rotax without a rectifier does not have an electrical system.  It just has a generator without the part that makes it useful.

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From: Bill Watson <bill@sportpilot.info>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:03:18 AM
Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Avionics Equipment

 

That is only true if words have no meaning. An "electrical system" implies
directly the sourcing and grounding of electrical energy. The 447 without
the coils hooked to anything does not source and ground electricity. The
word "system" alone implies a complete connection, otherwise the English
word would be "pieces".

If they wanted to wordsmith for a partial system, "...with an engine-driven
electrical system" would be replaced with "...with any portion of an
engine-driven electrical system".

How about a Piper Colt that had a voltage regulator, but no alternator,
added to the plane when it was certified? Since it would then have a portion
of an electrical system, as does the 447 with disconnected coils, would it
need to have a transponder?

Bill Watson
bill@part103. org

-----Original Message-----
From: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of apollonorthamerica
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:49 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Avionics Equipment

Rotax 447 has an engine driven electrical system. Its has a lighting coil
comes with the engine and can be hooked up using a rectifier.
Abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com, "r" <lightflyer@ ...> wrote:
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com, "rstar447" <rstar447@> wrote:
> >
> > >If you have any modern engine such as a Rotax that has the >CAPABILITY
of generating electrical power, whether it is connected >to the battery or
not, the exeption does not apply.
> >
> > Mike, if a single seat pull-start LSA, without a battery, has a Rotax
447 engine, you are saying that a transponder is required when flown within
the mode C ring? What about a single seat ultralight flying in the same
airspace with the same pull-start engine w/o a battery?
> >
> > Ralph
>
>
> The key words here are "engine driven electrical system".If you don't have
an electrical system, then you don't need a transponder.
>
> That's an exemption they made to the rules in order to accomodate the
antiques and homebuilts that are flying around with engines that were never
designed without generators or alternators. A lot of these guys installed a
simple little elecrical system and charged the battery by adding a
wind-driven generator to keep the battery charged.
>
> Rick
>

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