Monday, November 9, 2009

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: When is an LSA NOT an LSA?



Hello aircraft specific
If it was out of LSA limits as a group its out forever. If it was in and has been modded the question is what mods can be undone. Pretty much the irreversible ones are gross weight and no of seats by STC. Wheel pants gap seals bigger engine cruise props were approved on a safe to fly basis. Performance to LSA standards wasnt an issue
Peter

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, pwrsport@ix.netcom.com <pwrsport@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

From: pwrsport@ix.netcom.com <pwrsport@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: When is an LSA NOT an LSA?
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:19 AM

 

May have missed a prior post on this question, are we talking (aircraft specific) or the entire fleet?

Ed


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Walker
Sent: Nov 9, 2009 1:47 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: When is an LSA NOT an LSA?

 

Hello
 its splitting hairs. The mod only effects LSA compliance IF the change alters the FAA information. Even an extensive mod like a higher powered engine that has the potential to lift max cruise would not be tested to show the higher cruise speed for certification to LSA standards The ones that kill a planes suitability are the STC mods that state that the planes spec is out of LSA specs like seats, gross weight Wheel pants cruise props STC dont list performance
Peter


--- On Tue, 11/10/09, dongeneda2000 <DonGeneda@bigfoot. com> wrote:

From: dongeneda2000 <DonGeneda@bigfoot. com>
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: When is an LSA NOT an LSA?
To: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 1:28 AM

 



That would seem to make little sense to me. Take for instance an old aircraft that just squeaks by on maximum speed. You buy it, and then find out that for one flight, someone tried out a cruise prop, that increased the top speed to one knot OVER the LSA requirements. After one 10 minute flight back in 1946, the prop was returned to the original prop. It would be forever banned from being an LSA! Same might apply to wheel pants or wing tips etc.

--- In Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com, "gmichaelhuffman" <sportaviation@ ...> wrote:
>
> Boths posts below on this subject are correct. If a type-certificated aircraft that originally met all the LSA specifications was altered at some point in its life (generally via an FAA-approved Supplemental Type Certificate- -STC) and after the alteration still met all the LSA specifications, the aircraft is, by definition, an LSA, as long as it continues to meet the specifications in the future.
>
> On the other hand, if at any time in its life the aircraft was ever altered (even legally by an STC) so that it did NOT meet the LSA specifications, it is, by definition, not an LSA. Even if the alteration is now removed, it is still not an LSA and never will be, according to the FAR Part 1 definition.
>
> Hope this helps! Further questions??- feel free to contact me!
>
> Mike
>
> G. Michael Huffman
> FAA Designated Airworthiness Representative- AP, WS, & PP
> Course Provider- ELSA Repairman- Inspection- AP, WS, & PP
> Course Provider- LSA Maintenance & Inspection for A&Ps
> SportAviationSpecia lties dot com
> 904-206-0522
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com, "Jerry" <jself1@> wrote:
> >
> > I have quoted Title 14, part I on LSA per FAR.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter
> > or powered-lift that, since its original certification, has
> > continued to meet the following:"
> >
> >
> >
> > Note that it has had to continue to meet requirements not just
> > meet them today.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jerry in NC
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> > dongeneda2000
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:27 PM
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group When is an LSA NOT an
> > LSA?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been shopping, Ercoupes for one, and have found some
> > different opinions on Standard cert aircraft, qualifying for
> > Sport Pilot use. The original list shows Ercoupes 415C and 415C-D
> > are LSA qualified.
> > One school of thought maintains that if it has been altered in
> > any way from original, it is no longer a LS. Since most all of
> > these have been upgraded to larger engines and metalized wings,
> > many say that takes them from that category. My own reading seems
> > to say that as long as it is still registered as a C or C-D
> > model, AND does not now exceed the LSA prequisites, it is an LSA.
> > Anybody have any take on this?
> >
>



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