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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

Sweet!  Thanks for the clarification, Mike.  I appreciate your comments.  I just may give it a try when my stash of Castrol is gone. 

 

Thanks, again.

 

 

Bob Taylor
TigerCub N657RT

From: Mike Peters

Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:36 AM

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I still use Opti-2. --- On Thu, 4/21/11, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil?? To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 2:57 PM   Thanks for your comments, Mike.  So you used to use the Opti-2, but you are using the Pennzoil Air-Cooled now?  What prompted you to change?  It would be nice to carry less oil on my cross countries.  My mower shop buddy showed me that Opti-2 has an injector version available, too.  It is of a lower viscosity.   Thanks, again.   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: Mike Peters Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Using Opti-2 at 100:1 is really not any different than running Pennzoil at 50:1.  It is much more concentrated (thicker, if you will) than the standard 50:1 oils, but dilutes just fine in the fuel. It's not a magic formula that allows you to run it at higher ratios.  Also, you will not gain anything by running it at lower ratios. I'm not selling anything and I don't care if you go with a different oil. Pennzoil Air-Cooled always worked well for me, but so does Opti-2 and after using it for hundreds of hours on a 503 and 582, I think it works pretty good.  Several friends have been using it for years, also. Like I said, it CANNOT be used in oil-injection since it is formulated to be mixed at 100:1.  If you pre-mix, you are fine.  Other than keeping the engine relatively clean and mixing well with oxygenated fuels, the biggest advantage is that you carry less on X-countries. Some people sweat the high ratio --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil?? To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 4:00 PM   Thanks for that. Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: James Ferris Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:45 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   I would not put Amsoil in any thing, I have tried it in three engines and all of them up in about one thousand miles. One only had 24,000miles on it it threw a rod and busted a piston. Never again, its no dam good. Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:50:06 PM Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Are you saying that you would not recommend using, say, Amsoil at 100:1, if the mfg'r. called out something else at 50:1?  What oil do you use, and at what ratio?   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: Robert Laird Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:28 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Oils come and go, but what will never change is the oil-to-gas ratio as proscribed by the engine manufacturer.  As long as the oil type is what is recommended, and the oil ratio is what is recommended, you should be free to try what you like.  I've tried a wide variety of oils, but they all meet the minimum requirements and oil ratio per the mfg.  I've not been able to detect much of difference between them, so I tend to look for the best price.   -- Robert On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: Group,                   At the risk of starting up the old oil debate….  I was at my local lawnmower parts establishment yesterday.  It is owned by a pilot friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about engines of all types.  We got on the subject of two-cycle oil and he introduced me to an oil called Opti-2.  It is supposedly a new type of formulation, requiring only 1.2 ounces per gallon for any two-stroke engine, regardless of make or mix ratio.  It has an ISO rating of EG-D++ which is the highest rating available.  You can check it out at  www.opti2-4.com . He swears by it, and uses it in his chain saws, blowers, and weedeaters.  It is also recommended for use in snowmobiles, outboards, and personal watercraft.                 I was just wondering if anyone here had heard of it, and whether anyone here was using it.  I realize that our aircraft engines are a bit of a different breed, but I am curious just the same.  I currently use Castrol RS TTS, per my engine mfgr's recommendation, but it's getting hard to find.  At 1.2 oz. per gallon, I could reduce my oil costs considerably.  I know there are many options available, but was interested in feedback regarding the Opti-2.                 I would appreciate comments, positive or negative, especially those of the constructive variety.   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT Wadsworth, Ohio

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

I still use Opti-2. --- On Thu, 4/21/11, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil?? To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 2:57 PM   Thanks for your comments, Mike.  So you used to use the Opti-2, but you are using the Pennzoil Air-Cooled now?  What prompted you to change?  It would be nice to carry less oil on my cross countries.  My mower shop buddy showed me that Opti-2 has an injector version available, too.  It is of a lower viscosity.   Thanks, again.   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: Mike Peters Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Using Opti-2 at 100:1 is really not any different than running Pennzoil at 50:1.  It is much more concentrated (thicker, if you will) than the standard 50:1 oils, but dilutes just fine in the fuel. It's not a magic formula that allows you to run it at higher ratios.  Also, you will not gain anything by running it at lower ratios. I'm not selling anything and I don't care if you go with a different oil. Pennzoil Air-Cooled always worked well for me, but so does Opti-2 and after using it for hundreds of hours on a 503 and 582, I think it works pretty good.  Several friends have been using it for years, also. Like I said, it CANNOT be used in oil-injection since it is formulated to be mixed at 100:1.  If you pre-mix, you are fine.  Other than keeping the engine relatively clean and mixing well with oxygenated fuels, the biggest advantage is that you carry less on X-countries. Some people sweat the high ratio --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil?? To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 4:00 PM   Thanks for that. Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: James Ferris Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:45 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   I would not put Amsoil in any thing, I have tried it in three engines and all of them up in about one thousand miles. One only had 24,000miles on it it threw a rod and busted a piston. Never again, its no dam good. Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:50:06 PM Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Are you saying that you would not recommend using, say, Amsoil at 100:1, if the mfg'r. called out something else at 50:1?  What oil do you use, and at what ratio?   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: Robert Laird Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:28 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Oils come and go, but what will never change is the oil-to-gas ratio as proscribed by the engine manufacturer.  As long as the oil type is what is recommended, and the oil ratio is what is recommended, you should be free to try what you like.  I've tried a wide variety of oils, but they all meet the minimum requirements and oil ratio per the mfg.  I've not been able to detect much of difference between them, so I tend to look for the best price.   -- Robert On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: Group,                   At the risk of starting up the old oil debate….  I was at my local lawnmower parts establishment yesterday.  It is owned by a pilot friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about engines of all types.  We got on the subject of two-cycle oil and he introduced me to an oil called Opti-2.  It is supposedly a new type of formulation, requiring only 1.2 ounces per gallon for any two-stroke engine, regardless of make or mix ratio.  It has an ISO rating of EG-D++ which is the highest rating available.  You can check it out at  www.opti2-4.com . He swears by it, and uses it in his chain saws, blowers, and weedeaters.  It is also recommended for use in snowmobiles, outboards, and personal watercraft.                 I was just wondering if anyone here had heard of it, and whether anyone here was using it.  I realize that our aircraft engines are a bit of a different breed, but I am curious just the same.  I currently use Castrol RS TTS, per my engine mfgr's recommendation, but it's getting hard to find.  At 1.2 oz. per gallon, I could reduce my oil costs considerably.  I know there are many options available, but was interested in feedback regarding the Opti-2.                 I would appreciate comments, positive or negative, especially those of the constructive variety.   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT Wadsworth, Ohio

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group first flight videos

A friend of mine has spent the last three years building a RANS S-7. Yesterday was his first test flight.

Here is the video I took:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_sRu9zlkM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsfUuDquGuc

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Thank you Jim,

Perfect response!  There are WAY TOO MANY unreasonable people in this world.  Jim, thanks again for getting it & getting it right.  Way too many don't.    

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On Apr 25, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jim Bair wrote:

A free market is simply a place where a buyer and a seller can meet and come to an agreement on a price for a product.  An auction is a perfect example.  The final bidder walks away with his purchased item.  You may be annoyed that someone bid more, but I'm a bit confused about the comments about personal integrity.  The fact that the item sold justifies the price.  I'm not sure what's difficult to understand about that.  If it didn't sell at $130,000, then one of two things will happen.  The price will come down, or the seller will continue to own it.  Every person makes decisions like this every day when they ask themselves, "Would I rather have this money in my pocket or would I rather have that "thing" over there?"  (Whatever it might be, from a candy bar to a house.)  Bottom line.... A $130,000 airplane sells for that because a buyer was willing to pay it.    Jim     Wish I could see more of the good things but I'm afraid those days have passed... Personal integrety?? only the self gratifying kind still lives,, the rest is  image type only.. Anytime one can charge $130 thousand dollars for a 5 to 8 hundred pound nearly home made airplane and justify the price,??,nuff said..                                                           Gentle breezes and strong tailwinds                                                                                                           Wes

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

A free market is simply a place where a buyer and a seller can meet and come to an agreement on a price for a product.  An auction is a perfect example.  The final bidder walks away with his purchased item.  You may be annoyed that someone bid more, but I'm a bit confused about the comments about personal integrity.  The fact that the item sold justifies the price.  I'm not sure what's difficult to understand about that.  If it didn't sell at $130,000, then one of two things will happen.  The price will come down, or the seller will continue to own it.  Every person makes decisions like this every day when they ask themselves, "Would I rather have this money in my pocket or would I rather have that "thing" over there?"  (Whatever it might be, from a candy bar to a house.)  Bottom line.... A $130,000 airplane sells for that because a buyer was willing to pay it.    Jim     Wish I could see more of the good things but I'm afraid those days have passed... Personal integrety?? only the self gratifying kind still lives,, the rest is  image type only.. Anytime one can charge $130 thousand dollars for a 5 to 8 hundred pound nearly home made airplane and justify the price,??,nuff said..                                                           Gentle breezes and strong tailwinds                                                                                                           Wes

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Well I am not really sure if I can agree with you on this statement.  I kind of feel that yes there are people who have all those very high standards in life, and those numbers are growing.  However, it is the media that brings out the worst in society.  You hear very little about the good things people do for each other, and how they care for their brother.  But the media does report every dirty little things going on in the world today.  They over look the good just to find crap that brings down our perspective of humanity.  So yes you have concerns in what you say, but you have not give credit to those who are trying hard to make changes..............

 

Just my thoughts, sorry if I jumped in this conversation and didn't mean to step on toes.........

 

Lacy Kaye

 

In a message dated 4/24/2011 11:45:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wesleymarceaux@yahoo.com writes:

 

Mr. Mike               Your actions actually give me a little hope for the future.. We need many more to "WAKE UP" and understand how low America's personal Integrety has gone.. Honor, Virtue, Morality, and High personal ethics used to be rampant in the viens of every American.. Now, it's good times on someone else and  cheat, lie, and steal everything you can.. Our new American Motto??  I--me-- and Myself, and to hell with the rest of you..         Wish I could see more of the good things but I'm afraid those days have passed... Personal integrety?? only the self gratifying kind still lives,, the rest is  image type only.. Anytime one can charge $130 thousand dollars for a 5 to 8 hundred pound nearly home made airplane and justify the price,??,nuff said..                                                           Gentle breezes and strong tailwinds                                                                                                           Wes  --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA?? To: "Sport Aircraft" <sport_aircraft@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 6:54 PM   > So this is the scenario that is currently happening and I want to be > able to do this as well...if it is legal. If its not legal, then how > are they able to do it?? I have asked the NPO if they have a waiver > from the FAA and they have not responded. > > NPO owns several ELSA aircraft for it's contract Sport Pilots to fly > and pays all associated expenses. > > NPO's CEO/SP gets paid 100 grand+ for wages including running the NPO > and flying NPO owned ELSA. > > NPO hires a few SP contractors and pays their wages and all the costs > of operating NPO owned ELSA aircraft. > > NPO has public website to show beautiful wildlife photos taken by SP's > flying NPO owned ELSA and tugs at the hearts and purse strings of its > audience and raises funds to pay wages and expenses. Well.... sounds like a dodgy operation to me, so I'm not voting for them. Cheers, Mike .

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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Wes and group, lets keep our replies to non personal responses. Thanks.

 

Gary Orpe

-----Original Message-----
From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cajun Wes
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 7:41 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Mr. Mike               Your actions actually give me a little hope for the future.. We need many more to "WAKE UP" and understand how low America's personal Integrety has gone.. Honor, Virtue, Morality, and High personal ethics used to be rampant in the viens of every American.. Now, it's good times on someone else and  cheat, lie, and steal everything you can.. Our new American Motto??  I--me-- and Myself, and to hell with the rest of you..         Wish I could see more of the good things but I'm afraid those days have passed... Personal integrety?? only the self gratifying kind still lives,, the rest is  image type only.. Anytime one can charge $130 thousand dollars for a 5 to 8 hundred pound nearly home made airplane and justify the price,??,nuff said..                                                           Gentle breezes and strong tailwinds                                                                                                           Wes  --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA?? To: "Sport Aircraft" <sport_aircraft@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 6:54 PM   > So this is the scenario that is currently happening and I want to be > able to do this as well...if it is legal. If its not legal, then how > are they able to do it?? I have asked the NPO if they have a waiver > from the FAA and they have not responded. > > NPO owns several ELSA aircraft for it's contract Sport Pilots to fly > and pays all associated expenses. > > NPO's CEO/SP gets paid 100 grand+ for wages including running the NPO > and flying NPO owned ELSA. > > NPO hires a few SP contractors and pays their wages and all the costs > of operating NPO owned ELSA aircraft. > > NPO has public website to show beautiful wildlife photos taken by SP's > flying NPO owned ELSA and tugs at the hearts and purse strings of its > audience and raises funds to pay wages and expenses. Well.... sounds like a dodgy operation to me, so I'm not voting for them. Cheers, Mike .

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How about $90,000 for metal wings, composite fuselage, glass or steam (your choice), leather interior?

 

Stay tuned.

 

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cajun Wes
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:41 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

 

 

Mr. Mike               Your actions actually give me a little hope for the future.. We need many more to "WAKE UP" and understand how low America's personal Integrety has gone.. Honor, Virtue, Morality, and High personal ethics used to be rampant in the viens of every American.. Now, it's good times on someone else and  cheat, lie, and steal everything you can.. Our new American Motto??  I--me-- and Myself, and to hell with the rest of you..         Wish I could see more of the good things but I'm afraid those days have passed... Personal integrety?? only the self gratifying kind still lives,, the rest is  image type only.. Anytime one can charge $130 thousand dollars for a 5 to 8 hundred pound nearly home made airplane and justify the price,??,nuff said..                                                           Gentle breezes and strong tailwinds                                                                                                           Wes  --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA?? To: "Sport Aircraft" <sport_aircraft@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 6:54 PM   > So this is the scenario that is currently happening and I want to be > able to do this as well...if it is legal. If its not legal, then how > are they able to do it?? I have asked the NPO if they have a waiver > from the FAA and they have not responded. > > NPO owns several ELSA aircraft for it's contract Sport Pilots to fly > and pays all associated expenses. > > NPO's CEO/SP gets paid 100 grand+ for wages including running the NPO > and flying NPO owned ELSA. > > NPO hires a few SP contractors and pays their wages and all the costs > of operating NPO owned ELSA aircraft. > > NPO has public website to show beautiful wildlife photos taken by SP's > flying NPO owned ELSA and tugs at the hearts and purse strings of its > audience and raises funds to pay wages and expenses. Well.... sounds like a dodgy operation to me, so I'm not voting for them. Cheers, Mike .

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Mr. Mike               Your actions actually give me a little hope for the future.. We need many more to "WAKE UP" and understand how low America's personal Integrety has gone.. Honor, Virtue, Morality, and High personal ethics used to be rampant in the viens of every American.. Now, it's good times on someone else and  cheat, lie, and steal everything you can.. Our new American Motto??  I--me-- and Myself, and to hell with the rest of you..         Wish I could see more of the good things but I'm afraid those days have passed... Personal integrety?? only the self gratifying kind still lives,, the rest is  image type only.. Anytime one can charge $130 thousand dollars for a 5 to 8 hundred pound nearly home made airplane and justify the price,??,nuff said..                                                           Gentle breezes and strong tailwinds                                                                                                           Wes  --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Michael Huckle <m230683@hotmail.com> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA?? To: "Sport Aircraft" <sport_aircraft@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 6:54 PM   > So this is the scenario that is currently happening and I want to be > able to do this as well...if it is legal. If its not legal, then how > are they able to do it?? I have asked the NPO if they have a waiver > from the FAA and they have not responded. > > NPO owns several ELSA aircraft for it's contract Sport Pilots to fly > and pays all associated expenses. > > NPO's CEO/SP gets paid 100 grand+ for wages including running the NPO > and flying NPO owned ELSA. > > NPO hires a few SP contractors and pays their wages and all the costs > of operating NPO owned ELSA aircraft. > > NPO has public website to show beautiful wildlife photos taken by SP's > flying NPO owned ELSA and tugs at the hearts and purse strings of its > audience and raises funds to pay wages and expenses. Well.... sounds like a dodgy operation to me, so I'm not voting for them. Cheers, Mike .

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

While I think Richard's statement is a bit strong, I can say that I know
of know pilot who picks up the phone to call the FSDO every time she
sees a fellow pilot violating a rule. Our community is based upon
mutual trust and understanding with a genuine concern for others. I
would suggest that the best way to handle a problem where you see a
fellow pilot violating the rules is to speak with her, discuss the
problem and its implications for safety and the continued well being of
the pilot community. More often that not, this will resolve the problem
in a way that strengthens rather than diminishes us as a whole.

Did you ever get a hod of Rodney at AOPA or the coordinators at this
organization as I previously suggested?

Helen

On 4/23/2011 5:15 PM, Meso wrote:
> Sorry but I am tired of the man using the same old excuse to speed his pregnant wife to the hospital year after year.
>
> The FAA can choose to escort if they so feel.
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Williams"<rkwill@...> wrote:
>
>> Meso,
>>
>> You are so wrong.
>>
>> A trivial example.
>>
>> A husband is doing the good deed of rushing his wife to the hospital when she is
>> having a baby. At such times, the speed limit is often exceeded and any fuzz ,
>> upon learning of the impending baby will escort them, siren wailing.
>>
>> R. Williams
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>> From: "Meso"<meso@...>
>> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:40:33 -0000
>> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??
>>
>>
>>> Doing a good deed does not constitute the right to break laws.
>>>
>>> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Mark IV"<markiv200@> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dude, do you really want to hassel this organization? While we are
>>>>
>> flying...the earth is dying. Think "bigger picture" here.
>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRrRMp9FUx4
>>>>
>>>> Far different than pulling banners for people on the beach to read.
>>>>
>> ------- End of Original Message -------
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Sometimes laws can have unintentional consequences and when followed to the letter, can be totally stifling which may not have been their original consequence.  Sometimes, simply following the spirit of the law is good enough, and sometimes situations arise that require the law to followed as best as possible but "worked around", a bit.  Sometimes we have to ask ourselves if every battle needs to be fought, if every law has to be followed to the absolute letter.  As an examiner people come to me all the time for help and advice.  I have always felt my role is to help people become legal if they want to be and help them be safer pilots if they could use the help.  My role is not to be a Barney Fife.  Sometimes doers of good deeds could use a break when the laws are written such that if followed exactly, good deeds won't get done.

 

Jim

 

From: Meso

Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:40 AM

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

 

 

Doing a good deed does not constitute the right to break laws.

--- In mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com, "Mark IV" <markiv200@...> wrote:
>
> Dude, do you really want to hassel this organization? While we are flying...the earth is dying. Think "bigger picture" here.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRrRMp9FUx4
>
> Far different than pulling banners for people on the beach to read.

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Sorry but I am tired of the man using the same old excuse to speed his pregnant wife to the hospital year after year.

The FAA can choose to escort if they so feel.

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...> wrote:
>
> Meso,
>
> You are so wrong.
>
> A trivial example.
>
> A husband is doing the good deed of rushing his wife to the hospital when she is
> having a baby. At such times, the speed limit is often exceeded and any fuzz ,
> upon learning of the impending baby will escort them, siren wailing.
>
> R. Williams
>
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Meso" <meso@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:40:33 -0000
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??
>
> > Doing a good deed does not constitute the right to break laws.
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Mark IV" <markiv200@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dude, do you really want to hassel this organization? While we are
> flying...the earth is dying. Think "bigger picture" here.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRrRMp9FUx4
> > >
> > > Far different than pulling banners for people on the beach to read.
> ------- End of Original Message -------
>

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Meso,

You are so wrong.

A trivial example.

A husband is doing the good deed of rushing his wife to the hospital when she is
having a baby. At such times, the speed limit is often exceeded and any fuzz ,
upon learning of the impending baby will escort them, siren wailing.

R. Williams

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From: "Meso" <meso@tds.net>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:40:33 -0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

> Doing a good deed does not constitute the right to break laws.
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Mark IV" <markiv200@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dude, do you really want to hassel this organization? While we are
flying...the earth is dying. Think "bigger picture" here.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRrRMp9FUx4
> >
> > Far different than pulling banners for people on the beach to read.
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Doing a good deed does not constitute the right to break laws.

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Mark IV" <markiv200@...> wrote:
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> Dude, do you really want to hassel this organization? While we are flying...the earth is dying. Think "bigger picture" here.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRrRMp9FUx4
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> Far different than pulling banners for people on the beach to read.

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

Dude, do you really want to hassel this organization? While we are flying...the earth is dying. Think "bigger picture" here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRrRMp9FUx4

Far different than pulling banners for people on the beach to read.

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Meso" <meso@...> wrote:
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> So this is the scenario that is currently happening and I want to be able to do this as well...if it is legal. If its not legal, then how are they able to do it?? I have asked the NPO if they have a waiver from the FAA and they have not responded.
>
> NPO owns several ELSA aircraft for it's contract Sport Pilots to fly and pays all associated expenses.
>
> NPO's CEO/SP gets paid 100 grand+ for wages including running the NPO and flying NPO owned ELSA.
>
> NPO hires a few SP contractors and pays their wages and all the costs of operating NPO owned ELSA aircraft.
>
> NPO has public website to show beautiful wildlife photos taken by SP's flying NPO owned ELSA and tugs at the hearts and purse strings of its audience and raises funds to pay wages and expenses.
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

Thanks for your comments, Mike.  So you used to use the Opti-2, but you are using the Pennzoil Air-Cooled now?  What prompted you to change?  It would be nice to carry less oil on my cross countries.  My mower shop buddy showed me that Opti-2 has an injector version available, too.  It is of a lower viscosity.

 

Thanks, again.

 

Bob Taylor
TigerCub N657RT

From: Mike Peters

Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM

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Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

 

Using Opti-2 at 100:1 is really not any different than running Pennzoil at 50:1.  It is much more concentrated (thicker, if you will) than the standard 50:1 oils, but dilutes just fine in the fuel. It's not a magic formula that allows you to run it at higher ratios.  Also, you will not gain anything by running it at lower ratios. I'm not selling anything and I don't care if you go with a different oil. Pennzoil Air-Cooled always worked well for me, but so does Opti-2 and after using it for hundreds of hours on a 503 and 582, I think it works pretty good.  Several friends have been using it for years, also. Like I said, it CANNOT be used in oil-injection since it is formulated to be mixed at 100:1.  If you pre-mix, you are fine.  Other than keeping the engine relatively clean and mixing well with oxygenated fuels, the biggest advantage is that you carry less on X-countries. Some people sweat the high ratio --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil?? To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 4:00 PM   Thanks for that. Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: James Ferris Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:45 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   I would not put Amsoil in any thing, I have tried it in three engines and all of them up in about one thousand miles. One only had 24,000miles on it it threw a rod and busted a piston. Never again, its no dam good. Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:50:06 PM Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Are you saying that you would not recommend using, say, Amsoil at 100:1, if the mfg'r. called out something else at 50:1?  What oil do you use, and at what ratio?   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT From: Robert Laird Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:28 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??   Oils come and go, but what will never change is the oil-to-gas ratio as proscribed by the engine manufacturer.  As long as the oil type is what is recommended, and the oil ratio is what is recommended, you should be free to try what you like.  I've tried a wide variety of oils, but they all meet the minimum requirements and oil ratio per the mfg.  I've not been able to detect much of difference between them, so I tend to look for the best price.   -- Robert On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote: Group,                   At the risk of starting up the old oil debate….  I was at my local lawnmower parts establishment yesterday.  It is owned by a pilot friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about engines of all types.  We got on the subject of two-cycle oil and he introduced me to an oil called Opti-2.  It is supposedly a new type of formulation, requiring only 1.2 ounces per gallon for any two-stroke engine, regardless of make or mix ratio.  It has an ISO rating of EG-D++ which is the highest rating available.  You can check it out at  www.opti2-4.com . He swears by it, and uses it in his chain saws, blowers, and weedeaters.  It is also recommended for use in snowmobiles, outboards, and personal watercraft.                 I was just wondering if anyone here had heard of it, and whether anyone here was using it.  I realize that our aircraft engines are a bit of a different breed, but I am curious just the same.  I currently use Castrol RS TTS, per my engine mfgr's recommendation, but it's getting hard to find.  At 1.2 oz. per gallon, I could reduce my oil costs considerably.  I know there are many options available, but was interested in feedback regarding the Opti-2.                 I would appreciate comments, positive or negative, especially those of the constructive variety.   Bob Taylor TigerCub N657RT Wadsworth, Ohio

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