Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Expired Annual

The entire system depends on personal integrity.  Legislation that we all hate is purely an attempt to put some teeth into the system, but in the end it is all our personal integrities that make it work.  And not to worry, if you ever sell your plane and the next owner kills himself and it is discovered that some things in the annual were "overlooked", his grieving widow's attorney will be sure to bring it to your attention.

 

Jim

 

 

From: dongeneda2000

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:34 PM

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.co m

Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Expired Annual

 

I was discussing this with my FAA brother just this morning. He signs off on them, but feels kinda worthless in the process. As he says, if an A&P will put his ticket on the line and some pilot feels confident enough to fly it, his action is really nothing in the process except a signature.
As an A&P I used to abuse it somewhat on my own plane, sign her off and go aviating! Cheaper than an annual!

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogr oups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> Part 23.
>
> Jim Bair wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Helen,
> > What type aircraft was it? I'm specifically trying to figure out the
> > FA involvement in ferry permits in ELSAs and SLSAs.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > *From:* Helen Woods <mailto:Helen_Woods@...>
> > *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:34 PM
> > *To:* Sport_Aircraft@... m
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogr oups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Expired Annual
> >
> >
> >
> > The problem generally isn't with the FAA, but if with the
> > mechanic. The
> > ferry permit request form requires an A&P to sign off that the
> > plane is
> > airworthy. I once upon a time made the mistake of requesting a ferry
> > permit when I had an instrument go belly up at a field other than my
> > home base and for taking the plane home. The FAA would not grant such
> > without and A&P signing off that the plane was fully airworthy and
> > the
> > A&P on the field would not sign such unless I authorized him to do a
> > full annual inspection first! The bottom line for ferry permits is
> > that
> > you have to have a mechanic willing to work with you.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> > jimbair@... <mailto:jimbair%40live.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's another question...
> > > Will the FAA issue a ferry permit on an ELSA or SLSA?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > *From:* Billy Noland <mailto:bgnoland@...
> > <mailto:bgnoland%40sbcglobal.net>>
> > > *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2009 8:54 AM
> > > *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogr oups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogr oups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Expired Annual
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The aircraft will have to have the annual before it can be flown
> > > legally. An exception would be to have a ferry permit from the
> > FAA to
> > > transport an aircraft out of annual.
> > >
> > > Bill N.
> > >
> > > --- On *Thu, 12/17/09, fishmaster232 /<fishmaster232@...
> > <mailto:fishmaster232%40live.com>
> > > <mailto:fishmaster232@...
> > <mailto:fishmaster232%40live.com>> >/* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: fishmaster232 <fishmaster232@...
> > <mailto:fishmaster232%40live.com>
> > > <mailto:fishmaster232@... <mailto:fishmaster232%40live.com>> >
> > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Expired Annual
> > > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogr oups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogr oups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 8:31 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > If I buy a aircraft who's annual expires in Febuary and I don't
> > > re-assemble the aircraft until spring, how do I get it to a AP to
> > > do the annual?
> > >
> > > I can't fly it can I?
> > >
> > > About how much does it cost?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rod
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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