Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Remos Nose Gear Collapse

That wasn't a stall, not even close to a stall. . . Either one of two things happened. . ..(Depending upon scenario. . . 1.  Strong headwind with Gusts. . .straight down the runway (Or close to it). And the wind gusted and stopped, leaving the airplane with no wind at all.  (But the ASI does not show this), and the CFI should be shot for bringing a student in such conditions. (So I doubt if this scenario existed). 2. The student drove the airplane into the ground.  Every thing I see falls in this category.  ASI, Even nose drop.   How does this happen?    I see the instructor tapping his fingers in front of the airplane. . .a distraction.  I see him about 3 feet off the runway, I see his instructor tapping fingers and pointing to something, it looked like he was telling the student to stay in the middle of the runway.  Something like a very light crosswind.  As the student was drifting to the left, the instructor was using his finger to  say More to the right, more to the right.   He was also high, and I think he knew it.  I also detect a loss of power when the nose started going down.  I think what happened, they knew it was high, the airplane was fast, but only 3 feet off the ground, they decreased power which lowered the nose, and did not raise the Nose (at all)  to compensate for the decrease of power.   Common mistake beginners do at low altitudes and high speed approaches.   Result. . .drove it right into the ground . . .at probably close to 10 MPH over stall speed / ground effect speed.    Definitely NO stall.    About ballooning. . .The airplane was not in much of a balloon.  It was a extremely shallow balloon with PLENTY of speed.  Both knew it, and I believe the student probably cut back the power to slow the airplane down to keep the flare from happening way too high.  In cutting back the power, the nose compensated by dropping.  It probably dropped fast enough that by the time the instructor noticed it, that 3 feet was gone.  Flare is too late, and you hit on the NOSE gear first (breaking the nose)  then hitting the main.  AS soon as the main hit, the angle of attack was not great enough to lift the airplane back into the air, because the nose gear collapsed partially by absorbing most of the shock on the first hit.  Thus, an immediate crunch and no lift for a "bounce and go".                   Dwayne

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