RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Remos Nose Gear Collapse

I had a similar experience during the spring season of this year, twice. One
was in a C172 landing at L45. I and my instructor were caught by surprise
while we were slammed against the ground at flair, on the mains, and
bounced. I recovered somehow and landed without incident, noticing dust
devils everywhere at that very spot. Surprised to say the least, my
instructor said she didn't know what happened and how I did get it down, but
all that went through my brain was "oh no you don't, I'm in charge here and
you will do what I want." I know that sounds silly and should have gone
around but decisions, decisions.

The second time it happened to me with a friend in my own EuroFox.
Everything was going great and looked like any other good landing approach,
with good speed of 55 over the runway. Suddenly bahmm, the mains hit hard
enough to flatten the tire enough to scrape the bottom of one fairing a bit.
I felt the shove down to the pavement, it was not a stall, I know the
difference. I hit full throttle since we had the speed and went around. Next
time, not knowing if we had landing gear or not, we landed without incident.
The wind socks was politely going around in circles as we went by.

In the video the student was too high in the first place and looks like he
pulled up to much to slow a long landing and the plane dropped on AOA to me.

I think these things happen and we can't see them sometimes. I carry a
little more speed in all my landings and go around without hesitation now.
Oh yeah, the plane. Absolutely no damage of any kind. Bottom of one fairing
a little scraped, but sandable and painted.

Seemed like a good time to share this with the group. Also added a little
more air to the tire. Thanks for listening.

Terrible good of the student to share this video experience with the group
and should go a long way to helping others with similar problems.

Gary Orpe

->-----Original Message-----
->From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
->[mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Woods
->Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:08 PM
->To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
->Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Remos Nose Gear Collapse
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->PS. A stall from rounding out too high crashes you on the mains, not
->the nose. Gotta surpass that AOA to stall.
->
->Helen
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->On 8/24/2010 8:58 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
->> That was a major stall from rounding out too high,
->resulting in a very hard landing.
->> The long drift off the center line was from the stall.
->>
->> > From the looks of things, that plane will need a prop,
->engine, front end, and a whole
->> lot of dollars to get back into the air (safely) again.
->>
->> Too bad, it is/was a very nice looking plane.
->>
->> R. Williams
->>
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->>
->> ---------- Original Message -----------
->> From: "Chris"<chris.holub@cox.net>
->> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
->> Sent: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:47:57 -0000
->> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Remos Nose Gear Collapse
->>
->>
->>> Nose gear collapse during student flight training in Remos.
->>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jOKpvthn7A
->>> Based on the video in my opinion he bounced it so hard the
->first time
->>> that when it came down the second time it was probably already
->>> weakened so much it couldn't support itself any more.
->>>
->>> Cheers,
->>> Chris
->>>
->> ------- End of Original Message -------
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