Re: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Remos Nose Gear Collapse

My personal opinion is that flap setting depends upon the plane, the winds, and the student.

In our Tecnams and Sky Arrows I teach full flaps by default but teach no flap landings for the gusty crosswinds we often get.  They are a lot easier to land without flaps in such conditions.  Ditto Cessnas.  They don't float and balloon as much in the gusts and don't drop as dramatically in the side slip without the flaps.

In old Cessna 172 and C150s you have to gauge the student's abilities.  All the drag of a Cessna added to 40 degrees of flap can cause problems both on landing and for go arounds in a slow student.  That's why Cessna went to 30 degrees of travel later on.

I also use flap setting to deal with specific issues that students are having.  Students who are reluctant to retrim in the pattern after adding flaps I will have trim the plane for 60 knots and not touch the flaps to show them how a trimmed plane will do a stabilized approach for them almost hands off.

Students who don't want to bring the nose up high enough on landing I'll use little or no flaps to help them get the nose up and adjust to the proper sight picture.

Students who like to flare high and stall out I insist use full flaps.  At least on our Tecnam P92s (my plane of choice for students who like to do the stalling out thing) the plane will mush down to the runway from a stall at almost any altitude with full flaps.

My two cents.
helen




Aug 25, 2010 09:55:23 PM, Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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> >--- > >5px;"> >From: Chris Norman <chris@digitalrealitycorp.com> >Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Remos Nose Gear Collapse I learned a very important >lesson that day…when the wind is howlin down the runway….land clean or with just >one notch of flaps with some extra power in. > > I am still with Helen, marc & student Cris..Way to high , flat & drove her into the ground ! NOW to start a REAL Debate.......Chris I teach >FULL FLAP LANDINGS all the time. Been doing it for 35 years and never had a student >(or pilot ) bend one yet. Just when you thought this thread couldn't any longer! > >The old man Tail Dragger Dan >CFII/Taildragger Instructor, A&P former IA &DM part 135 > > > > >width="1" height="1"> >

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