Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group IFR SLSA

Rotax doesn't limit you to daytime VFR either. FYI. Its just VFR.
Abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Johnson <bjohnson@...> wrote:
>
> YES, but again, that's a manufacturer limitation.. The Rotax is NOT the
> only ASTM sLSA engine out there. The Jabiru is not a "Certified" engine
> (part 23), however they do NOT limit you to daytime VFR only.
> Specifically Jabiru has certified that all of it's engines from 2006 on
> are compliant for night flight (assuming the aircraft is compliant) see:
> *http://tinyurl.com/la3wl4 or
> **http://www.jabiru.net.au/Service%20Bulletins/Engine%20files/
> JSB010-3.pdf**) *
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> apollonorthamerica wrote:
> >
> >
> > Are we talking S-LSA aircraft here?
> > If so there is definitely a requirement to use 912S (certified
> > version) as opposed to 912ULS. This simply comes from what the engine
> > manufacturer allows in their operating limitations. In an ASTM
> > compliant airplane, the airplane manufacturer is required to use
> > either a type certified or ASTM compliant engine and as such the
> > operating limitations of the engine become part of operating
> > limitations of the plane as well. 912ULS is ok for VFR only flights.
> > Abid
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>, Bruce Johnson
> > <bjohnson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I do not believe there is ANY requirement of Certified
> > > engine/prop/instruments. Now if AMD decided that was the only way THEY
> > > were going to allow IFR in the MFR limitations, that's an MFR decision,
> > > not an FAA decision.
> > >
> > > Now I also believe the ASTM is working on a standard for IFR sLSA
> > > limitations which will change this for all future craft after the
> > > standard is published.
> > >
> > > Bruce Johnson
> > > Sonex AeroVee TD 90% done
> > >
> > >
> > > Jay Maynard wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:56:46PM -0700, Gary Orpe wrote:
> > > > > I believe there is a requirement for the engine to be certified
> > as well.
> > > >
> > > > Certificated engine, certificated prop, TSOd primary flight
> > > > instruments. The
> > > > airplane must also have the usual pitot/static tests.
> > > > --
> > > > Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, CFI-SP http://www.conmicro.com
> > <http://www.conmicro.com>
> > > > <http://www.conmicro.com <http://www.conmicro.com>>
> > > > http://jmaynard.livejournal.com <http://jmaynard.livejournal.com>
> > <http://jmaynard.livejournal.com <http://jmaynard.livejournal.com>>
> > > > http://www.tronguy.net <http://www.tronguy.net>
> > <http://www.tronguy.net <http://www.tronguy.net>>
> > > > Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
> > > > AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
> > <http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml>
> > > > <http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
> > <http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > __.
> >
>


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