Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video: FAA resol..

Not at all the hanger glider people played an important roll in the development of the trikes, but the original Rogallo wing was very simple and the wings you use now are a much higher aspect ratio and have my leading edge cuff that was developed to increase the performance of kites flown by boy scouts. Tom Purcell also built a configuration on pontoons that he pulled behind a little hot-rod boat and we flew it on the James river, I drove the boat while Rog (Dr. Rogallo) flew the thing and Tom rode with me to tell me how Rog was doing.  We had a bunch of fun, My wife used my boat as a chase boat and took photo's and everything was fine until Tom told me to cut the power and let Rog make a dead stick landing and it did not work out, he bent some of the structure in a hard landing and we had to quit but we already had flown it a few hours. this was in 1966 and the wing was very simple the leading edge was just an aluminum tube and the aspect ratio was about half of the wings you are flying now but it was a good start and a lot of fut for little cost.

Jim

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From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@yahoo.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 7:14:30 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video: FAA resol..

 

That's a weird comment.
That is like saying that hang glider pilots should still stick with Dr. Rogallo used in his original wing. That does not take away from dr rogallo but it also accepts development and enhancements
abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, James Ferris <mijniljj@...> wrote:
>
> If it wasn't for Barry Palmer you would still be on your three wheeler for three
> year olds and maybe a two wheeler with out riggers. 
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 4:58:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video: FAA
> resol...
>
>  
> Wait a second. So you want us to fly trikes like Barry Palmer flew. No thank
> you.
> Abid
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, James Ferris <mijniljj@> wrote:
> >
> > You are right, I was thinking more of VW, Corvair, GO and other  auto engine
> > conversions, I understand a GO cost  about $1,500.00 and some of the Corvairs
>
> > only $1,000.00  for KR-2 aircraft and the Go are used on many of the triks. 
> >Thr
> >
> > first trik to fly had a 15 HP engine and cost about $100.00 and was built by
> > Barry Palmer but he did not weigh 300 pounds and that was a few years ago and
> >it
> >
> > did not go 100 MPH either, it was more like 35 or 40 MPH and he never left the
>
> > airport. So I don't know anyone stupid enough to pay $18,000.00 for an engine
> >to
> >
> > go on a trik even in this day and time and even if it does go 100 MPH so I am
> > out of my class so I will go away and shut up.
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "drice003@" <drice003@>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 3:41:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video:
> >FAA
> >
> > resol...
> >
> >  
> > jim
> > got no dog in this fight ,but you are on a group that you don't belong on,it
> > appears you have no idea about prices
> > dave
> >
> >  
> > >
> > >$4,400 for an engine to go on a trike? it come off a P-51 0r what??????
> > >
> > >
> > >From: "medicbill@" <medicbill@>
> > >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 11:05:14 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video:
> >FAA
> >
> > >resol...
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >You can get off your high horse. Your the one who wants to insult people and
> > >talk trash who are just doing their job as best they can with the limitations
>
> > >they have. You know even police have to go by the law. Sorry about your trike
>
> > >but obviously there is more to the story then what you are telling here for
> >some
> >
> > >guy to be pulling a gun on you. Since you handled it without the police then
> >why
> >
> > >are you getting on them about the issue. Small claims or not it is still a
> >civil
> >
> > >issue and not a criminal issue. If I were you maybe I would not use that guy
> > >again in the future
> > > 
> > >In a message dated 9/3/2010 4:27:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > >rkwill@ writes:
> > >
> > >medic,
> > >
> > >
> > >?"Get off your high horse"?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >A $9000 dollar trike and a $4400 engine is not a small claims action.
> > >
> > >And the subsequent negotiated deal did get our stuff the next day.
> > >
> > >Do try to keep up with the thread rather than flying off the handle when any
> >of
> >
> > >your
> > >
> > >
> > >'hot buttons' gets pressed.
> > >
> > >
> > >BTW:
> > >
> > >We were not on his property.
> > >
> > >Do you think it is a civil, non criminal, activity to use your gun to menace
> >the
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >traffic out on the street?
> > >
> > >The police saw it as a criminal activity and charged the dealer with a
> >criminal
> >
> >
> > >
> > >offense.
> > >
> > >
> > >R. Williams
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---------- Original Message -----------
> > >
> > >From: medicbill@
> > >
> > >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >Sent: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 01:38:37 EDT
> > >
> > >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Video: FAA resolves Kings
> > >issue -
> > >
> > >
> > >AOPA
> > >
> > >
> > >> Well it is because this would be a civil matter and not a criminal
> > >
> > >> matter. He was on his property. Obviously the gun was not illegal and
> > >
> > >> he legally owned it so his argument is going to be he was protecting
> > >
> > >> his property. Get off your high horse and go file a small claims
> > >
> > >> action and handle it properly.
> > >
> > >>
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