Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video: FAA resol..

Good history. It must have been fun.
Best,
Abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, James Ferris <mijniljj@...> wrote:
>
> Not at all the hanger glider people played an important roll in the development
> of the trikes, but the original Rogallo wing was very simple and the wings you
> use now are a much higher aspect ratio and have my leading edge cuff that was
> developed to increase the performance of kites flown by boy scouts. Tom Purcell
> also built a configuration on pontoons that he pulled behind a little hot-rod
> boat and we flew it on the James river, I drove the boat while Rog (Dr. Rogallo)
> flew the thing and Tom rode with me to tell me how Rog was doing.  We had a
> bunch of fun, My wife used my boat as a chase boat and took photo's and
> everything was fine until Tom told me to cut the power and let Rog make a dead
> stick landing and it did not work out, he bent some of the structure in a hard
> landing and we had to quit but we already had flown it a few hours. this was in
> 1966 and the wing was very simple the leading edge was just an aluminum tube and
> the aspect ratio was about half of the wings you are flying now but it was a
> good start and a lot of fut for little cost.
> Jim
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 7:14:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video: FAA
> resol..
>
>  
> That's a weird comment.
> That is like saying that hang glider pilots should still stick with Dr. Rogallo
> used in his original wing. That does not take away from dr rogallo but it also
> accepts development and enhancements
> abid
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, James Ferris <mijniljj@> wrote:
> >
> > If it wasn't for Barry Palmer you would still be on your three wheeler for
> >three
> >
> > year olds and maybe a two wheeler with out riggers. 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 4:58:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video:
> >FAA
> >
> > resol...
> >
> >  
> > Wait a second. So you want us to fly trikes like Barry Palmer flew. No thank
> > you.
> > Abid
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, James Ferris <mijniljj@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You are right, I was thinking more of VW, Corvair, GO and other  auto
> >engine
> >
> > > conversions, I understand a GO cost  about $1,500.00 and some of the
> >Corvairs
> >
> >
> > > only $1,000.00  for KR-2 aircraft and the Go are used on many of the
> >triks. 
> >
> > >Thr
> > >
> > > first trik to fly had a 15 HP engine and cost about $100.00 and was built
> >by
> >
> > > Barry Palmer but he did not weigh 300 pounds and that was a few years ago and
> >
> > >it
> > >
> > > did not go 100 MPH either, it was more like 35 or 40 MPH and he never left
> >the
> >
> >
> > > airport. So I don't know anyone stupid enough to pay $18,000.00 for an engine
> >
> > >to
> > >
> > > go on a trik even in this day and time and even if it does go 100 MPH so I am
> >
> > > out of my class so I will go away and shut up.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "drice003@" <drice003@>
> > > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 3:41:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video:
>
> > >FAA
> > >
> > > resol...
> > >
> > >  
> > > jim
> > > got no dog in this fight ,but you are on a group that you don't belong on,it
>
> > > appears you have no idea about prices
> > > dave
> > >
> > >  
> > > >
> > > >$4,400 for an engine to go on a trike? it come off a P-51 0r what??????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >From: "medicbill@" <medicbill@>
> > > >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 11:05:14 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Cracked, with gun, was: Video:
> >
> > >FAA
> > >
> > > >resol...
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >You can get off your high horse. Your the one who wants to insult people and
> >
> > > >talk trash who are just doing their job as best they can with the
> >limitations
> >
> >
> > > >they have. You know even police have to go by the law. Sorry about your
> >trike
> >
> >
> > > >but obviously there is more to the story then what you are telling here for
>
> > >some
> > >
> > > >guy to be pulling a gun on you. Since you handled it without the police then
> >
> > >why
> > >
> > > >are you getting on them about the issue. Small claims or not it is still a
> > >civil
> > >
> > > >issue and not a criminal issue. If I were you maybe I would not use that guy
> >
> > > >again in the future
> > > > 
> > > >In a message dated 9/3/2010 4:27:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > >rkwill@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >medic,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >?"Get off your high horse"?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >A $9000 dollar trike and a $4400 engine is not a small claims action.
> > > >
> > > >And the subsequent negotiated deal did get our stuff the next day.
> > > >
> > > >Do try to keep up with the thread rather than flying off the handle when any
> >
> > >of
> > >
> > > >your
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >'hot buttons' gets pressed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >BTW:
> > > >
> > > >We were not on his property.
> > > >
> > > >Do you think it is a civil, non criminal, activity to use your gun to menace
> >
> > >the
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >traffic out on the street?
> > > >
> > > >The police saw it as a criminal activity and charged the dealer with a
> > >criminal
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >offense.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >R. Williams
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------- Original Message -----------
> > > >
> > > >From: medicbill@
> > > >
> > > >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > >Sent: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 01:38:37 EDT
> > > >
> > > >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Video: FAA resolves Kings
>
> > > >issue -
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >AOPA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Well it is because this would be a civil matter and not a criminal
> > > >
> > > >> matter. He was on his property. Obviously the gun was not illegal and
> > > >
> > > >> he legally owned it so his argument is going to be he was protecting
> > > >
> > > >> his property. Get off your high horse and go file a small claims
> > > >
> > > >> action and handle it properly.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >
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