Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Flight Training Recommendation

Here's another thought to throw into the mix. ASTM doesn't require squat
in the way of back ups. If you loose your electric in a Cessna Sky
Catcher you loose ALL of your instruments. How well would someone who
learned to fly a sim first be able to handle a total electrical failure
in a C162?

Helen

On 5/9/2012 7:32 AM, vardonx wrote:
> I agree with Helen. Doing your first hours on sim only seems like a poor substitute to me. Those first hours are where you learn to feel what the plane is doing not just see via the instruments. If the fancy MFD goes poof in the Remos, I know I can fly to safe landing by feeling the aircraft and using the few backup round dials.
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> 20 years ago when I did my first go at PPL in a C150 my instructor really got on me about flying the instruments (a habit I had from playing a lot of flight sim). Learn to fly the plane first, not the instruments was always drilled into me.
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> Learning to fly the Remos compared to that C150 seemed to be much harder due to the differences in performance, etc. I think that a lot of pilots transitioning down to sport assume incorrectly that the planes are "easy" to fly and don't bother with the proper training or any sort of acclimation period.
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> I do think that the sims would be great to have available and use on crappy weather days or for more advanced learning like instrument rating, where you really are learning to fly the instruments only. Sims for that would sure beat wearing the dorky hood in the airplane :)
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> --Charles
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> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods<Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>> While I know that many instructors would disagree with me, I would argue
>> that sims and sport pilot are not a good match. Sims are fine in my
>> book for learning button pushing like your G1000 and procedures for
>> larger planes (C172 and up) where you fly on instruments and on
>> procedures but if you look at the LSA accident rate is is abismal
>> because of the "big" airplane pilots who are good at that sort of thing
>> but who are transitioning to LSAs and lack the fundamental stick and
>> rudder skills to handle an LSA. LSAs are all about stick and rudder and
>> seat of your pants flying and you just can't adequately simulate that in
>> a sim.
>>
>> Helen
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>> On 5/8/2012 9:16 AM, L. Bruce Jones wrote:
>>> What is happening at Redbird is that the sims are used by students until they can demonstrate they meet the private practical test standards for each maneuver. Only then do they go to the airplane. I have not asked the average number of actual aircraft hours necessary to achieve the private certificate at Redbird, but I will. Even the full motion sims only cost 60 cents an hour in power consumption.
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>>> It's a very powerful and convenient way to teach that minimizes costs and allows for things like total G-1000 familiarity and spin training. People's time is more productive as well. If the weather is bad you can always do sim work. In areas where there are long periods of lousy weather, students can make progress, and just as importantly, young CFIs can stay gainfully employed.
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>>> The same techniques used at Redbird would be highly effective for Sport Pilot as well.
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