Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help

I applied the formula to my trike.
with a 32'wing span ^2 = 1024.
1024 * .62 = 634 MTOW.

*sigh*
My trike weight near 500 pounds before me and fuel

even adding a tank of fuel would put it over the limit.

I have flown weight shift with longer wings.
A major handful to control.

now if we could get that number (.69) moved up to say 1.0, then I could fit
right in.

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "circicirci" <acensor@fastmail.fm>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 03 May 2012 19:32:59 -0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help

> Hmmm.
> Curious what happened when the FAA examiner came out to issue his
> original airworthiness certification and saw it didn't LOOK much like
> a motor glider? Or did it? Do you recall what sort of aircraft it was?
>
> I CAN imagine squeezing in a Challenger as a "motor-glider" but hard
> to imagine how he(or she) could pull that registration strategy off
> with anything that didn't look like a motor glider.
>
> Wonder (a ) if there's a legal FAA definition of "motor glider" that
> would prevent one from, say, registering a 150 knot capable RV with a
> 500+ mile cruising range under power as a motor-glider?
> (b ) if you have to have a glider pilot rating to be able to fly a
> motor glider?
>
> Hey, FYI I just found an answer to my own question "(a)" at the EAA.
> Interesting:
> -------------------------
> "There is no official definition of a "motor glider". The FAA does not
> use that term. They do call out a requirement for a "powered glider",
> but the aircraft is still considered a "glider" even though it has an
> engine.
>
> In order for an aircraft to be considered a "powered glider" it must
> meet the following criteria:
>
> (i) The number of occupants does not exceed two;
> (ii) Maximum weight does not exceed 850 kg (1874 pounds); and
>
> (iii) The maximum weight to wing span squared (w/b2) does not exceed
> 3.0 kg/M2 (0.62 lb./ft.2).
>
> Item (iii) is key, because many aircraft that people would like to
> consider a "motorglider" won't meet the span loading formula. Again,
> the formula is the maximum gross weight divided by the wing span
> squared. Here's an example:
>
> An aircraft with a gross weight of 1250 lbs and a wing span of 36 feet
> would work out to .96 lb/ft.2 according to the formula, which would
> not meet the requirement. But an aircraft with the same gross weight
> but a 46 foot wing span would work out to .59 lb/ft.2, which does meet
> the requirement."
> -------------------------
>
> Thus there'll be few aircraft you can use this stratgegy with.
> Some LSA's would fit. But those you can fly without medical anyway.
> None that would help a 400 pounder who wants to fly without a medical
> as far as I can tell.
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Cy Galley" <cgalley@...> wrote:
> >
> > Motor Gliders fly under the same rules. One person I am aware of even
registered his home built as a motor glider to avoid needing a medical.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
> >
> >
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